How Children Benefit from Adult Conversations
We hear so much about the importance of talking and singing to babies – and how it aids in their brain development - but not as much is said about talking to children three years and up, even into the teenage years. Older children actually need as much direct adult communication as babies do, but for different reasons.
The brain is still forming and growing for many years after a child can speak, read, and write. Recent research shows that brain development (both the addition of and strengthening of connections between different areas of the brain) continues throughout our entire lives. Children in the preschool and elementary school years need to be exposed to advanced vocabulary, complex thinking, and logic and reasoning skills. One of the most important ways this can happen is through conversation with adults.
Researchers call this the "verbal bath"; the shower of language which occurs when children interact with adults in a safe and appropriate way. When children are soaked in language, through stories, conversations, and discussions, it helps them learn to reason, reflect, and respond to the world around them.
How does this kind of conversation arise? What does it look like? Chew on this quote from The Sibling Society by Robert Bly:
Sometimes we mistake informational queries for conversation. For instance, "What would you like for dinner tonight?" is not meaningful conversation. Neither are directions, as in "Please pick up that piece of paper." Additionally, the "verbal bath" is not a chance for adults to saddle kids with adult issues. Gossiping, complaining, worrying, and relationship problems should be kept away from young ears.
How can we, then, immerse kids in the "verbal bath"? Here are some suggestions:
* Fairy tales told extemporaneously
* Reading poetry aloud (everyone from Mother Goose to Shel Silverstein)
* Memorizing songs and poems through verbal repetition
* Telling family or community stories (oral history)
* Reading books aloud
* Reflective conversations
* Letting children re-tell favorite stories in their own words
* Time spent one-on-one with an adult in nature
* Group discussions using the Socratic method
* Reading programs like Junior Great Books, where books are discussed aloud
* Use of dialectic as a method for problem-solving and analysis
* Asking children open-ended questions that require more than a "yes" or "no" answer
What do all of these expressions of "rich language" have in common?
First of all, they are all auditory and verbal communication. Because there is no visual component, children's brains are required to picture the concepts and ideas they're discussing. This sort of cognitive exercise creates and strengthens the synapses in the brain, enabling the child to partake in discussions of increasing complexity.
Second, they are traditions that have stood the test of time in terms of human development; storytelling, oral history, the Socratic method, and dialectic go back for centuries. They are proven methods of increasing humankind's abilities to observe and analyze the world around them.
A third thing that binds these traditions together: they are technology-free. Actually, technology usually brings this kind of reflective, deliberate communication to a screeching halt. In order to get the most from this language immersion, TVs, radios, computers, and cellphones need to be turned off. If conversation lapses, then silence is okay. Silent periods give kids and adults a chance to digest the information they've shared.
Age by age, here are a few good examples of rich conversation:
For 3-6 year olds:
* Discussion about the weather, seasons, holidays, and pets
* Simple storytelling, preferably without a book (make up a new story, or tell a well-known story and change the details as your memory allows)
* Questions about the child's preferences: favorite books, foods, colors, and the like. Try to get to the 'why' behind the opinions
* Conversations about thoughts and feelings, at an age-appropriate level
For 6-9 year olds:
* Open-ended questions about nature, science, art, and music
* In-depth dialogue about books, magazines, and poems
* Sharing of opinions about morality and responsibility
* Brainstorming sessions to come up with ideas for writing, art, and science projects
For 9-12 year olds:
* Discussions that use the Socratic method to solve problems. This can require some preparation on the part of the teacher. One day I stumbled upon this example of using the Socratic method to teach math concepts; I was entranced.
* More sophisticated discussions of morality, including social responsibility and ethics
* Discussions of world events, both historic and current
* Informal debate, as children learn to defend varying points of view
The "verbal bath" must be deliberate
After researching this topic extensively, I came to the conclusion that immersing children in rich language needs to be a deliberate action on the part of the adult. Otherwise, in our overly-busy, technological world, we will never get around to actually having thoughtful discussions. But if we do become intentional about it, the children in our lives will flourish.
The brain is still forming and growing for many years after a child can speak, read, and write. Recent research shows that brain development (both the addition of and strengthening of connections between different areas of the brain) continues throughout our entire lives. Children in the preschool and elementary school years need to be exposed to advanced vocabulary, complex thinking, and logic and reasoning skills. One of the most important ways this can happen is through conversation with adults.
Researchers call this the "verbal bath"; the shower of language which occurs when children interact with adults in a safe and appropriate way. When children are soaked in language, through stories, conversations, and discussions, it helps them learn to reason, reflect, and respond to the world around them.
How does this kind of conversation arise? What does it look like? Chew on this quote from The Sibling Society by Robert Bly:
Children need an elaborated language in order for brain development to occur. One way to achieve an elaborated language is through hours and hours of conversation with adults. Conversation means not only, "How was the game?", but also slow, quiet talk in which the child gets a glimpse into the strange countryside of the grown-up's brain, in which the grown-up says, "I always give money to a beggar, even though I don't want to," or "The problem with the pirate is that he is lacking in empathy."Unfortunately, today's children don't spend nearly as much time talking with adults as they used to. Families used to sit around the dinner table or the fireplace and have in-depth discussions. Studies show that children today spend far more time in front of the computer and television than they do in meaningful child-adult conversation.
Sometimes we mistake informational queries for conversation. For instance, "What would you like for dinner tonight?" is not meaningful conversation. Neither are directions, as in "Please pick up that piece of paper." Additionally, the "verbal bath" is not a chance for adults to saddle kids with adult issues. Gossiping, complaining, worrying, and relationship problems should be kept away from young ears.
How can we, then, immerse kids in the "verbal bath"? Here are some suggestions:
* Fairy tales told extemporaneously
* Reading poetry aloud (everyone from Mother Goose to Shel Silverstein)
* Memorizing songs and poems through verbal repetition
* Telling family or community stories (oral history)
* Reading books aloud
* Reflective conversations
* Letting children re-tell favorite stories in their own words
* Time spent one-on-one with an adult in nature
* Group discussions using the Socratic method
* Reading programs like Junior Great Books, where books are discussed aloud
* Use of dialectic as a method for problem-solving and analysis
* Asking children open-ended questions that require more than a "yes" or "no" answer
What do all of these expressions of "rich language" have in common?
First of all, they are all auditory and verbal communication. Because there is no visual component, children's brains are required to picture the concepts and ideas they're discussing. This sort of cognitive exercise creates and strengthens the synapses in the brain, enabling the child to partake in discussions of increasing complexity.
Second, they are traditions that have stood the test of time in terms of human development; storytelling, oral history, the Socratic method, and dialectic go back for centuries. They are proven methods of increasing humankind's abilities to observe and analyze the world around them.
A third thing that binds these traditions together: they are technology-free. Actually, technology usually brings this kind of reflective, deliberate communication to a screeching halt. In order to get the most from this language immersion, TVs, radios, computers, and cellphones need to be turned off. If conversation lapses, then silence is okay. Silent periods give kids and adults a chance to digest the information they've shared.
Age by age, here are a few good examples of rich conversation:
For 3-6 year olds:
* Discussion about the weather, seasons, holidays, and pets
* Simple storytelling, preferably without a book (make up a new story, or tell a well-known story and change the details as your memory allows)
* Questions about the child's preferences: favorite books, foods, colors, and the like. Try to get to the 'why' behind the opinions
* Conversations about thoughts and feelings, at an age-appropriate level
For 6-9 year olds:
* Open-ended questions about nature, science, art, and music
* In-depth dialogue about books, magazines, and poems
* Sharing of opinions about morality and responsibility
* Brainstorming sessions to come up with ideas for writing, art, and science projects
For 9-12 year olds:
* Discussions that use the Socratic method to solve problems. This can require some preparation on the part of the teacher. One day I stumbled upon this example of using the Socratic method to teach math concepts; I was entranced.
* More sophisticated discussions of morality, including social responsibility and ethics
* Discussions of world events, both historic and current
* Informal debate, as children learn to defend varying points of view
The "verbal bath" must be deliberate
After researching this topic extensively, I came to the conclusion that immersing children in rich language needs to be a deliberate action on the part of the adult. Otherwise, in our overly-busy, technological world, we will never get around to actually having thoughtful discussions. But if we do become intentional about it, the children in our lives will flourish.




Comments:
WOW! I've been thinking about this very topic recently. I've been pondering it on my blog as well. Great points Lori!
Excellent post, Lori. Thanks for the reminder about this essential component of a child's development.
So glad it was helpful! I've been mulling this topic over for awhile now, and finally the time seemed right =)
This is such a great post. I have read novels aloud to my kids since my oldest was almost 3. They all (I have 4, ages 7, 5,3,8 months) love listening to me read stories and poetry. I have often had people comment that they are so surprised that they can have "real" conversations with my kids. My thoughts silent thoughts have always been, "Well, they're real people, aren't they? Why can't we have real conversations with children?" I think having actual discussions with kids shows them we love and respect them enough to share ourselves and thoughts with them as well as to listen to and value theirs.
You're so right, Jessica. People forget that kids can be engaged in very meaningful conversation if the adults around them talk to them respectfully.
Children can often surprise us with their thoughtful observations if we just take the time to listen.
Thank you so much for this! What great ideas for older children as well - ages groups that often get forgotten. The ability to express oneself only comes with practice.
Yes, I purposely wanted to include the 9-12 age group; as you said, they are often forgotten when it comes to subjects like this. But they benefit greatly from adult conversations, especially as they begin to figure out their place in the world.
Lori -
I am "piloting" the Junior Great Books this year in my LE classroom. Until now, the school has used old SRA and SSS as the only instructional reading in the classroom. The children are not discussing what they read; only circling A, B, or C.
Since beginng the Junior Great Books 3 weeks ago, my students are excited to read, asking when the next lesson is and what the next story is going to be about. They've discovered that they can talk about a text and that it's ok to have different opinions. It's been a lot of fun and the parents are glad to know that I'm helping them develop higher level thinking skills that will help them throughout life. So much better than circling A, B, or C.
Michelle
Oh, yes, Michelle, you are right! Discussion is always more valuable than multiple choice or true/false. You think of new ideas while you're talking, just from hearing the people around you talk and share.
So glad you've started JGB - I have many fond memories of being in that program when I was in school. It was a breath of fresh air compared to the usual diet of workbooks, etc.
I agree and realize that for many parents this has to be a choice, though I am not sure that for homeschooling parents a "verbal bath" approach is necessary. Our kids are with us 90% of their awake time, we talk about things constantly, we don't dumb down our language, and read aloud often. (Of course in our household tv is seldom an option and even the video games they play are ones that are played together and discussed.) It seems to me that in such an environment children will naturally grow in their language skills much more than sitting in a class being asked questions.
Ah, but what you describe:
"we talk about things constantly, we don't dumb down our language, and read aloud often"
is the verbal bath, right there in a nutshell. So rather than thinking of it as "homeschooling parents don't need to do this", it's more accurate to say, "homeschooling parents do this more often than other parents might, as a natural part of spending so much time with their children".
And, even as a homeschooling parent, I believe there are ways of communicating with my kids that I don't always take advantage of. In other words, although my children are in a language-rich environment, it's nice to shake things up a bit and use a method of communication that might be new.
Not all homeschoolers may be aware of things like dialectic or the Socratic method, and no other kind of communication can replace those particular methods of oral analysis; they are very specific. So a homeschooling parent would have to be very deliberate about including things like that in their curriculum.
Since my readers include teachers, Montessori parents who don't homeschool, and homeschoolers, I suggested things that everyone and anyone can implement, whether they homeschool or not.
Wonderful post! Even though I was public-schooled, my parents made a point to "bathe" us in adult conversation on a daily basis (always at dinner, and often before and after as well). I thank them for this, and strive to continue the tradition into our homeschooling family.
I've linked to your blog post from my new (one-month-old) blog here:
http://tiredmom.wordpress.com/
Thanks for providing excellent material for my musings. :)
Great advice that i will try to incorporate with all my children. My father used to talk to me like an adult from a very young age - which I beleive helped me a lot. What a great blog post - going to have to put you on my blog roll.
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